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And what about keeping the present last? You usually think past, present, then future.
"Again, partially chronology...I guess I liked it because it was not what you completely expected. But also that the film is a journey of getting to know Frida, as well as getting to know what her world entails. Her job is one that requires her to look to the past to create for the future. And so you kind of get to know her in that expanse, and then the last moment is when you get to sit and really be in the moment with her, I think.”
What do you think is the significance of having Shanghai representing the future? Do you think that kind of said something more about the fashion industry at large?
"Well, I think, as Frida says in the film, when you're talking about emerging countries, you have to recognized it’s already emerged. I think that one of the things I noticed when I was in Shanghai was that as Americans we are very aware of China being this huge, powerful, entity, economically and culturally and socially. But...it’s almost the same way that people in cities in the U.S. think that everything is happening here, and nothing is happening anywhere else. So, I think China represents a future in a lot of ways."
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Do you have any favorite moments that had to be left on the cutting-room floor?
"Oh, there’s so much. I mean, the first rough cut of this was, I think, four and a half hours long and I remember watching it and we were like, 'We can’t cut anything! It’s going to be an epic!' There’s a great moment actually when I was having lunch with Frida, and her father brought out a manila envelope and he said, 'I know you think James Franco was born 35 years ago, but he was actually born 65 years ago.' And he pulls out these pictures of himself in his 20s looking an awful lot like James Franco! And then he’s like: 'James Franco, playing for the national football team in Rome. James Franco, with Frida as a baby.' It was so amazing, but at the same time, I was like, 'This movie is really about Frida.' But I think in the DVD extras that deserves to be noted."
"James and I have worked together for, god, it’s been five years now. You know, since his first student film at NYU, I’ve been shooting him as a cinematographer. And then we started this project two years ago, and then about a year and a half ago, started another project that premiered at Sundance here. Our creative relationship is continually getting more and more multifaceted."
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What do you think is the real takeaway with Frida and her being a part of Gucci? What do you think makes her position there so important for the public to know about?
"One of the things I learned making the film is how much is involved for someone in that role. It’s not just being a designer. It really is being the director. I mean, you are directing so many different departments, making so many different choices about so many different things. It’s not just the fabric or the hem or the embroidery. It’s the music, the model's walk, it’s the interior decoration of the space, it’s what pictures are chosen to go out into the world to capture the feeling of this collection. I mean, it’s a really complicated job description."
"We got really, really lucky! Actually, that was one shoot that I was not on because I was actually shooting As I Lay Dying with James, so I had a camera crew there on that day. My associate producer called me and was like, 'Frida’s pregnant!' And I was like, 'What?! Did you get it on film?' It’s a great moment. It just was a happy accident. When I first started it was right after she and Patrizio (Di Marco) had sort of formally announced their relationship, and there was a big article in The Financial Times. So, it’s been really cool kind of watching that evolution for her. And then the day she had Greta, her daughter, was the day we officially locked everything — sound, color, picture. It was like, 'We’re done with the movie!' and then someone called and was like, 'Frida just had a baby!' It’s crazy. The timing of it was great."
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